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As some of you know, I teach history at the Ukrainian School of San Francisco. Today, I would like to tell you the main history lesson that I wish we all, definitiely all Ukrainians, learn from the story of Holodomor.
A hundred years ago the land of Ukraine just stopped being ravaged by nearly a decade of a terrible war. Of three overlapping wars in a row: first, The World War that we now call WWI, then the Civil War fallout of the Socialist Revolution in Russia, and then the war in which a newly born Ukrainian Republic tried to fight off the Communist russia while fighting russian monarchists, local communists and anarchists, and all kinds of foreign intervention troops. During 1917-1921, Central and Eastern Ukraine lost about 1.5 million lives -- a huge toll. So, people got tired of fighting. Exhausted and fatigued. And started giving up. Because they thought even a bad peace was better than a good war, and they were so tired of losing lives, and property... And, having lost support of the simple people, a century and one year ago the last of the substantial Ukrainian Republic-aligned military resistance was over. People thought that peace has come to their land, even if they had to sacrifice their freedom to Moscow again...
The first few years of that peace were even relatiely peaceful, yes. Some political turmoil later, but peace, right? Then the communist state ripened to start moving along with its agenda (in case you don't know, that was a very straightforward agenda -- start the world war, which will turn into the world revolution, and voila) and started moving farmers into kolhosps, collective farming entities controlled by the party. That hurt the "simple people" more, but still, better than the war, isn't it? And then, exactly ten years after the end of that tiring and terrible war, the party leaders decided that Ukrainian farmers needed a bit of a lesson. (It's anyone guess, what was the priority: speeding up conversion to "communist way", moving peasants to the cities to build more weapons, squishing resistance of people who were too independent and did not obey the orders from moscow.) After that, in the course of two years, way upwards of 3.5 million people died of hunger during perfectly peaceful time. Even not counting all the other soviet russia-driven tragedies, the math was simple: two peaceful years in russia-controlled Ukraine took three lives for each one life Ukrainians lost during four years of the Independence war before giving up. So, my history lesson is simple: if today, trying to save your life, you give up to russia, then tomorrow, you will still lose your life, and so will your kids.
As some of you know, I teach history at the Ukrainian School of San Francisco. Today, I would like to tell you the main history lesson that I wish we all, definitiely all Ukrainians, learn from the story of Holodomor.
A hundred years ago the land of Ukraine just stopped being ravaged by nearly a decade of a terrible war. Of three overlapping wars in a row: first, The World War that we now call WWI, then the Civil War fallout of the Socialist Revolution in Russia, and then the war in which a newly born Ukrainian Republic tried to fight off the Communist russia while fighting russian monarchists, local communists and anarchists, and all kinds of foreign intervention troops. During 1917-1921, Central and Eastern Ukraine lost about 1.5 million lives -- a huge toll. So, people got tired of fighting. Exhausted and fatigued. And started giving up. Because they thought even a bad peace was better than a good war, and they were so tired of losing lives, and property... And, having lost support of the simple people, a century and one year ago the last of the substantial Ukrainian Republic-aligned military resistance was over. People thought that peace has come to their land, even if they had to sacrifice their freedom to Moscow again...
The first few years of that peace were even relatiely peaceful, yes. Some political turmoil later, but peace, right? Then the communist state ripened to start moving along with its agenda (in case you don't know, that was a very straightforward agenda -- start the world war, which will turn into the world revolution, and voila) and started moving farmers into kolhosps, collective farming entities controlled by the party. That hurt the "simple people" more, but still, better than the war, isn't it? And then, exactly ten years after the end of that tiring and terrible war, the party leaders decided that Ukrainian farmers needed a bit of a lesson. (It's anyone guess, what was the priority: speeding up conversion to "communist way", moving peasants to the cities to build more weapons, squishing resistance of people who were too independent and did not obey the orders from moscow.) After that, in the course of two years, way upwards of 3.5 million people died of hunger during perfectly peaceful time. Even not counting all the other soviet russia-driven tragedies, the math was simple: two peaceful years in russia-controlled Ukraine took three lives for each one life Ukrainians lost during four years of the Independence war before giving up. So, my history lesson is simple: if today, trying to save your life, you give up to russia, then tomorrow, you will still lose your life, and so will your kids.
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Date: 2023-11-16 12:49 am (UTC)Вмирають носії емоцій (носії фактів лишаються, але цього недостатньо). З ними вмирає саме емоційна частина поділу між добром і злом.
У той же час, різновсякі диктатури, фашизми, неонацизми пропонують прості рішення, які не були б сприйняті попередніми поколіннями, але нові покоління легко стають жертвами промивання мізків.
І єдиний достовірно відомий спосіб переконати людей, що вони неправі — це велика війна, яка прокотиться безпосередньо по цих людях. Ті, хто виживуть, знову знатимуть, де добро і де зло.
Лишається лише сподіватися, що «велика війна» не передбачатиме масового застосування ЗМЗ, а «обійдеться» лише ракетами, артилерією тощо. Бо тоді ппць усім.
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Date: 2023-11-13 06:43 am (UTC)Thank you.
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Date: 2023-11-15 01:54 am (UTC)Не те, що з самого початку націлені на визвольну боротьбу "Роланд" і "Нахтігаль", не кажучи про власне ОУН і, потім, УПА
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Date: 2023-11-15 01:59 am (UTC)Хоча є і клінічні випадки. У знайомих тут (цебто, в Каліфорнії) місяць жив еленерівський проросійський ватнік. Жінка приходила, плакалася: запросила до себе по Юнайтед фор Юкрейн програмі доньку покійної сестри. Але щоби донька приїхала, то з нею мав приїхати тато, бо лише він має офіційну опіку. Приїхав... як українець... при цьому будучи абсолютно кацапуватим ватником. І бідна жінка місяць не могла його позбутися без того, щоби не відіслати назад в Україну бідну сироту. Казала: "напівсироту, але краще би вже повну"
Якось щось йому заплатила і збулася, він поїхав в Україну, залишивши тут доньку, хочеться вірити, що там він перейшов на той бік фронту, де свої і дістав.
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